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Action! takes too much performance ?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:42 pm
by Fr3EKiLL
Hi all,
i just got the Action! key.
And i got a i7 930 4x3Ghz, its same fast as a i5 4690k (i had this i5...)
and a GTX 580 Classified Ultra 3GB. SSD Crucial M500 240GB, 8GB Ram.
My Action! settings:
MP4, 1080p, 60FPS.

https://mirillis.com/en/products/action ... sktop.html

I was Recording watch_dogs i had 46FPS.
After i start recording it drops to 10-15Fps...
Can it be that its so slow because the game runs on the SSD + Windows and it records on the SSD ?

Re: Action! takes too much performance ?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:39 am
by radi
Depends on how much the game affects your hard drive.

Re: Action! takes too much performance ?

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 5:18 pm
by AnubisAkaLee
Fr3EKiLL wrote:Hi all,
i just got the Action! key.
And i got a i7 930 4x3Ghz, its same fast as a i5 4690k (i had this i5...)
and a GTX 580 Classified Ultra 3GB. SSD Crucial M500 240GB, 8GB Ram.
My Action! settings:
MP4, 1080p, 60FPS.

https://mirillis.com/en/products/action ... sktop.html

I was Recording watch_dogs i had 46FPS.
After i start recording it drops to 10-15Fps...
Can it be that its so slow because the game runs on the SSD + Windows and it records on the SSD ?
Uhm, first, those 2 processors you are comparing are completely different. The 930 that you have now is a full 1100 Mhz slower than the 4690k you are comparing it to. The 930 is 4 years older on the older 1st generation Nehalem architecture and uses DDR3 1066 (non OC) instead of the DDR3 1600 (non OC) of the 4690k. The raw power of the 4th generation Haswell 4690k and the faster DDR3 memory support would perform MUCH better encoding video. That's before we consider that the 4690k has more instructions sets and Intel Quick Sync which is a hardware h.264 accelerator

You do have an SSD which is faster than a spindle HDD, however you really should have a minimum of 2 hard drives with a recommendation of 3 when recording if you want to have good performance. You do not want your game running from the same drive you record to because your going to cap your IOPS and run into a bottle neck. Your drive does not read game data and right recording data at the same time. The preference is to have your OS on it's own drive (as Windows has alot of maintenance processes it runs in the background at all times), the game on its own drive and your recording on it's own drive. The combination of having your OS, game and recording all on the same drive with a 5 year old processor and slower 800 or 1066 memory you are probably going to run into problems. The nVidia 580 is pretty fast for an older card, however it does not have a hardware h.264 encoder like the nVidia 600+ models so you are relying almost entirely on your processor for encoding your video. With all these factors 1080 with 60 FPS is asking a bit much.

You have to think about how much strain just playing a game is on your current hardware. You stated you were getting less than 60 FPS before you even started recording. You cannot record 60FPS when you are only processing 45 FPS. You would open a black hole! Gaming is "pretty" resource intense. Recording game content is "extremely" resource intense. Really, you need to get your system to where it is playing the game without "maxing out" and then once you have a system that can play the game with ease use the computers unused resources to record. Lower your in-game settings. Close your background apps. Do what you can to improve the games performance.

If you would like some recommendations on improving performance my first suggestion would be getting at least 1 other HDD. Right now that is most likely your biggest bottleneck. Getting 2 addition HDDs would give the greatest improvement in that area and should be your first goal as that would eliminate any possible stutter due to data bandwidth. The next most important is processor, however I recognize that would require an entire system upgrade and be very costly. So instead the second place I would look at is your GFX card.

With your current system try recording at 720 30 FPS. You will probably be able to get away with that. You are probably going to upload these to somewhere like YouTube, right? Most folks statistically watch at 480p with 720p being a smaller (although growing) percentage and 1080p falling to less people than 360p and 60FPS hasn't really taken off on YouTube yet and is still only available to Chrome users.